tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25754016.post115522132537541854..comments2023-04-29T05:57:46.610-04:00Comments on kirchenlieder: Abductive thinking & worshipLancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00546255819540082933noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25754016.post-1155903798651980992006-08-18T08:23:00.000-04:002006-08-18T08:23:00.000-04:00Although, I should also make clear that the people...Although, I should also make clear that the people who didn't like the Apostle's Creed are no longer at Hightstown (in case you'd want to visit).Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00546255819540082933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25754016.post-1155763823385859932006-08-16T17:30:00.000-04:002006-08-16T17:30:00.000-04:00millinerd,I do like most of the older liturgies, a...millinerd,<BR/><BR/>I do like most of the older liturgies, although you do have to watch for the Nestorian ones and the like. However, that in itself is a problem for free churches, in which no <I>written</I> liturgy is used, even though often the same things happen every week. When at Hightstown we were discussing a church statement of faith, I suggested the Apostles' Creed. After having to Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00546255819540082933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25754016.post-1155731876248460392006-08-16T08:37:00.000-04:002006-08-16T08:37:00.000-04:00On people wanting 'chaos' -This is a curious term ...On people wanting 'chaos' -<BR/><BR/>This is a curious term to use, as it appears in Scripture as something opposed to God, something which God conquers and subdues. I understand our experience of God may seem to us to be an encounter with chaos; but the reality is that is we are encountering true order (it is we who are in the chaotic state).<BR/><BR/>And on people wanting a taste of chaos; Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25754016.post-1155677476165200882006-08-15T17:31:00.000-04:002006-08-15T17:31:00.000-04:00Well, if the Latin Mass was good enough for Jesus....Well, if the Latin Mass was good enough for Jesus...<BR/><BR/>But seriously, I pick any with roots that are over 1000 years old. Is that a foolproof test? Of course not. But there's a lot less fool in it than the alternative. <BR/><BR/>To quote American church historian James Nichols on Mercersberg, <BR/><BR/>"Rather than seeking novel forms of expression, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/millinerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01881164503284706248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25754016.post-1155600325192939142006-08-14T20:05:00.000-04:002006-08-14T20:05:00.000-04:00Ah, I remember the appropriate millinerd post well...Ah, I remember the appropriate <A HREF="http://millinerd.com/2005/09/remix.html" REL="nofollow">millinerd post</A> well.<BR/><BR/>True, though, abductive reasoning <I>is</I> still reasoning.<BR/><BR/>Which of the "classic liturgical formulae" do you like? There's many from which to choose, although I like most of them (I'm especially fond of James, personally).<BR/><BR/>Or, perhaps, maybe our Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00546255819540082933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25754016.post-1155503992705462442006-08-13T17:19:00.000-04:002006-08-13T17:19:00.000-04:00At the risk of putting it too sharply, I'd much pr...At the risk of putting it too sharply, I'd much prefer to be abducted by the Holy Spirit through the classic liturgical formulae through which He flows best than by a Graham Hughes' roller coaster rite. <BR/><BR/>As for "how we can bring people to the boundary without chaos?" I commend the words of Peirce: <BR/><BR/>"It must be remembered that abduction, although it is very little hampered millinerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01881164503284706248noreply@blogger.com